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Well, I have already in my supply closet the Gabby's and Kins cloth that you need the cover pant for, and one of the Gabby's all-in-one units, but ordered the Kins last week , they have arrived and they are, well, LOUD! Very crackley, and thicker then the Gabby's, a different outer material as well, almost vinyl like, if not being just that. I like them, comfortable, but wishing they had a quieter outer layer. Anyone else that used them in the past notice this? I am sure I will get used to them when I sleep, but last night the crackling was a little disruptive! Could never use them out of the house, too bulky and far too noisy, the Gabby's is almost silent in comparison. Will have to see how long it takes for that outer layer to stiffen up and crack like the Kins cover pant I used in the past, can't imagine they will make a year. I am going to avoid the dryer totally with laundering them, and see if it helps any, does not make a difference with the Gabby's though, still like they arrived a year ago, Puffy

frankly bkins makes a 2 terry ply pant witch i find the best very good constion its hold alot you can all way add a hour glass insert for night the price is right
as far for all in ones don,t waste your money they leak and never fit right
kins also makes a plastic pant with incased elastic leg an waist get the 6 mil
ctdc has gary pants for the right price
buy american or canada products the are made well
bkins also makes custom pants too call them
ps order by leg an hip size better loose than tight

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well ibs thats enought