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 Post subject: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:46 pm 
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Came back from another trip today for business and found the attached in my luggage. Well at least I wasn't in front of them when they were going through my check luggage. I always bring more than I think I will need just to be on the safe side, so I had some in my bag. I know they probably don't bat an eye about seeing them as they are looking for other items.


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:07 pm 
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I'm wondering whether they broke open the lock on your bag and damaged it.

I rarely go away for more than two or three days at a time. So I usually travel with the largest permitted carry-on luggage and a briefcase. I've had my bags opened a number of times by the Canadian security people on the check-in line. They've certainly seen and occasionally handled my diapers, but they've always been very professional about it.


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:51 pm 
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I'll be carrying 8 diapers for nighttime in my carry on bag. Is TSA likely to open my bag and/or humiliate me?

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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:28 pm 
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gtrudeau88 wrote:
I'll be carrying 8 diapers for nighttime in my carry on bag. Is TSA likely to open my bag and/or humiliate me?

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What? Heck no! Like we've said before, they will never make a big deal of anything unless you do first.

I carried just two diapers withcmy carry on bag. I just unzipped it open and put it through the xray machine. It went through, and I picked it up and zipped it closed. Nothing was said, and I went onxmy way.

Now start acting all nervous because you've got them, and they will pick up on that nervousness. That's when you might have a problem.


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:38 pm 
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You never really know with the TSA. They only hire bottom feeding losers half of which are thieves and sex offenders. I don't have an expectation of professionalism when it comes to them.

that said, I've never had a problem. I've flow diapered. Before I needed diapers in the day I've flown with my night time diapers in my luggage. Never had and issue.

And ignore all the crap people say about "make sure it's dry when you go through security", which I've seen on this and other boards....this is an incontinence board. If any of us could "make sure it's dry" we wouldn't be wearing the damn things.

IDK whether or not a wet diaper sets off any triggers with the goon watching you on the rapescanner or not, but I know I've walzed right through with some pretty heavy/wet diapers on a few occasions. I generally try to change right before leaving home/hotel for the airport but I've had short layovers where I've had to catch the next flight with hardly a moment to spare. This condition is inconvenient enough, I'm not going to feel obligated to go change a diaper just for "security's" sake.

I typically don't care at all anymore about people I don't know finding out. I do try to keep it hidden from all friends and family though. So far, only my wife and doctors know. People at work may suspect. I'd prefer to keep it limited. TSA could pull all my diapers out of my bag in front of the whole airport and I wouldn't care if there were only strangers there, but if my in-laws, extended family or friends who don't know were there I'd be super embarrassed.


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:44 pm 
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B Brian wrote:
gtrudeau88 wrote:
I'll be carrying 8 diapers for nighttime in my carry on bag. Is TSA likely to open my bag and/or humiliate me?

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What? Heck no! Like we've said before, they will never make a big deal of anything unless you do first.

I carried just two diapers withcmy carry on bag. I just unzipped it open and put it through the xray machine. It went through, and I picked it up and zipped it closed. Nothing was said, and I went onxmy way.

Now start acting all nervous because you've got them, and they will pick up on that nervousness. That's when you might have a problem.


that's not true. There have been news stories of them absolutely humiliating passengers. I'd say it's unlikely though.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tsa-defends ... -pat-down/


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:09 pm 
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This is a timely topic for me, as I will be flying for a business trip in less than three weeks. It is a very short trip (2 days, 1 night), so I will have only a carry-on suitcase (the largest size allowed by the airline) and a personal item (laptop bag). Spare diapers, wipes, and baby powder will be in the suitcase.

In preparation for this trip, I contacted the TSA several weeks ago via their online contact form. Below are copies of my original message as well as the two replies I received:
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Message to TSA:
I wear disposable adult diapers due to urinary incontinence. Based on what I have seen in the news, as well as on incontinent patient support websites, diapers sometimes cause issues at the security checkpoint, as the bulk and wetness is detected by the body scanner. Is there a way to discreetly declare the diaper to the screener prior to entering the body scanner so the screener will know in advance that there is extra bulk and/or wetness while keeping the issue private from bystanders?

Also, I use baby powder in my diapers…will that cause an issue with the screening process? Will a container of baby powder be allowed in my carry-on bag? What about individually-wrapped moistened wipes for cleanup during diaper changes (I plan to have several spare diapers in my carry-on bag)? If powder and/or wipes are allowed in carry-on luggage, will a manual inspection of the luggage be required? If so, can the bag be scanned in a private area rather than out in the open?
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1st reply from TSA:
Thank you for contacting the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) Contact Center.

You are not required to provide medical documentation to a Transportation Security Officer (TSO). While we encourage verbal communication with TSOs during the screening process, we understand that you may prefer to communicate in a more discreet manner. With this in mind, we developed the TSA Notification Card, which allows you to discreetly notify TSOs of any issues or concerns that may affect your screening. The Notification Card is available for download on our Disabilities and Medical Conditions page, which can be found by selecting “Special Procedures” under the “Travel” tab on www.tsa.gov. Please remember, the use of this card or medical documentation does not exempt you from screening.

We strive to provide the highest level of security while ensuring that all passengers are treated with dignity and respect. To that end, we launched TSA Cares and the Passenger Support Specialist (PSS) program.
TSA Cares is a dedicated helpline that provides information on the screening procedures that specifically pertain to those with disabilities, medical conditions, and other circumstances. We also coordinate assistance through checkpoint screening via the PSS program. PSSs are Transportation Security Officers (TSO) who have received advanced training on helping passengers with disability, medical, or other circumstances through the screening checkpoint. The level of service will vary based on the airport’s resources. Some airports may have the resources to call or e-mail you ahead of time to coordinate a meeting point and others may simply notify the checkpoint of your estimated arrival time. You may always request to speak with a PSS or a Supervisory TSO when you arrive at the checkpoint.
If you believe you would benefit from this service, please call TSA Cares at least 72-hours in advance of travel. We will collect your travel dates, flight information, and the type of assistance needed, and forward the information to the airport. If you are unable to provide 72-hour notice, you may request to speak with a PSS or Supervisory TSO for assistance at the checkpoint.
The hours of operation for the TSA Cares helpline are 8 a.m. to 11 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday, and 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. Eastern, weekends and holidays. You may call (855) 787-2227, Federal Relay 711, or e-mail us at TSA-ContactCenter@dhs.gov.
If you need in-flight assistance or wheelchair assistance from the curb to the flight, please contact your airline before traveling. Airlines will generally work with you to try to meet your particular needs.

Please visit TSA’s Web site at www.tsa.gov and go to the “Can I Bring…” application located on the right-hand side of the home page. By entering an item in the search field and clicking “submit,” the tool will tell you if the item can be taken in checked or carry-on baggage.

It is important to note; however, that even if an item is generally permitted, it may be subject to additional screening or not allowed through the checkpoint if it triggers an alarm during the screening process, appears to have been tampered with, or poses other security concerns. Transportation Security Officers have the discretion to prohibit an individual from carrying an item through the screening checkpoint or onboard an aircraft if the item poses a security threat.

The prohibited and permitted items list is not intended to be all-inclusive. TSA reviews these lists periodically, and changes are announced and posted as necessary. In addition, individual airlines may have space limitations, size restrictions, or other regulations for carrying certain items onboard. TSA recommends that travelers contact their airline prior to departure to determine any additional restrictions for carry-on and checked baggage.

We encourage all passengers to familiarize themselves with TSA Travel Tips at http:\\www.tsa.gov\travel\travel-tips. The Web site has information about prohibited and permitted items, the screening process and procedures, and guidance for special considerations that may assist passengers in preparing for air travel.

TSA Contact Center
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2nd reply from TSA:
Thank you for contacting the Transportation Security Administration. While many routine inquiries can be responded to in less than 48 hours, some responses that require additional information may take longer.
The Contact Center's frequently asked questions<https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-asked-questions> page has answers to the most common inquiries we receive from the public.
If you are writing to find out if you can pack a certain item in your carry-on or checked bags, you can use our "What can I bring...?" tool located on the www.tsa.gov<http://www.tsa.gov> homepage. After clicking the "What can I bring?" link, just type in the item name into the box, hit the "search" button, and the tool will tell you if it's permitted or prohibited in both carry-on and checked bags.
The Travel page<https://www.tsa.gov/travel> has a great deal of information, including acceptable IDs, traveling with liquids, tips for members of the military and people with special medical needs, the prohibited items list, and tips for packing and dressing to get through security quickly.
You might also be interested in TSA's new mobile web and iPhone app, that gives you 24/7 access to all of the above information. You can access TSA.gov from any smartphone by typing www.tsa.gov<http://www.tsa.gov> in the web browser. You can download the MyTSA iPhone app for free on iTunes and Android.
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It is fairly apparent that they do not have any specific procedures to apply when screening passengers with specific medical conditions such as incontinence. That being said, it appears that some of the screeners ("PSS") have additional training (customer service) but no specifics were provided by the TSA.

I have decided to use the Notification Card. If additional screening (bag opening and/or pat-down) is triggered, I will request that it be done in a private room. I'm not particularly interested in my diapers and supplies being laid out on a table for everyone else in the airport to see. After I return, I'll post a follow up to let everyone know how it went.

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:40 pm 
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As I mentioned in another post, the one time had a wet diaper trigger the nuddie scanner and had the agent tell me I needed to have a pat-down, I told him up-front I was wearing a diaper and that was a bit wet. I think my lack of (outward) embarrassment put almost all of the embarrassment back on him.


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:05 am 
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Inconinmiss wrote:
I'm wondering whether they broke open the lock on your bag and damaged it.

I rarely go away for more than two or three days at a time. So I usually travel with the largest permitted carry-on luggage and a briefcase. I've had my bags opened a number of times by the Canadian security people on the check-in line. They've certainly seen and occasionally handled my diapers, but they've always been very professional about it.


The only time I had a lock on my luggage was when I was using my seabag as luggage, but that was before the TSA existed. The locks they provide to keep luggage secure will only keep a honest person honest. See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbpKhHwwtiY to see how easy it is to break into a zipper suitcase.

So far I have not had an issue with TSA either through inspections or through my pat downs. I have had to carry a work laptop, GPS, network testers, power cords, along with my personal items in a carry on with no issues. I even joked one time with a TSA agent concerning my carry on, telling him "the only thing I care about is that work laptop since it is a government laptop and I don't want to do the paperwork for it." He just laughed as I'm sure he knows plenty about paperwork for losing something or breaking it.

As for the TSA being crooks and lowlifes I will disagree. They do have their problems as with other professions, but for the most part they are people trying to make a living and provide for their family. Any profession out there can be called out for being dishonest either from fraud or theft from the actions of a few. See this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhqR2efvq4Y about TSA agent stealing items. I have a friend who just got hired and will be going through the training and I will be interested in what she is trained on not to mention what to do when someone hands her a disability card. They have a thankless job where people call them names and tell them this is against the Constitution, but that is for another discussion on another board. They are trying to catch that one or two out to do harm to us and for what ever reasons they become complacent. This causes them to not even catch the items that should be caught, which has been in the news. At the end of the day they are human and will make mistakes and bad decisions. Yes this condition is an embarrassing and if any person wants to try to make fun of it at anyone's expense, I hope I can turn the tables on them.

I have also told myself that if I was to be searched now by TSA, I would request to show them my disability notice card and if we could take my bag to a more private setting. Plus, like MikeInSF did just come out and say I am wearing a wet diaper and need to change due to incontinence issues.

Just don't act nervous about it. It is a disability we have no control over and you wont be flagged for being nervous. Some have continuous leakage while others the bladder just decides to empty with no notice like me


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 Post subject: Re: TSA baggage check
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:23 am 
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The only time I have ever flown I just had a carry-on. The last time I flew was the only time that my bag was opened and it was due to my laptop not the ten diapers and ten pull-ups I had in my backpack. That being said they never mentioned it to me there was just an imaging issue due to my laptop screen being on in my bag.

The only time I have ever been embarrassed by security was at Universal Studios here in Florida. I was going to Halloween horror nights back in 2009 and was still have day issues I had four Abena pull-ups in a light sling bag, the security guard checking my bag said some to the effect of worried it will be that scary... I gave him a small ear-full but that was it.

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